It seems to me that aristotle is saying that individual virtues are the one path to the good life and that path come from within, while plato posits the path to the good life needs exterior influences for the person to achieve success. Plato's epistemology holds that knowledge of platonic ideas is innate, so that learning is the development of ideas buried deep in the soul, often under the midwife-like guidance of an interrogator. In the republic, the good of the city and the good of the individual are independently specifiable, and the citizens' own maximal good coincides with the maximal good of the city since plato believes that this coincidence is realized only through propagandistic means in the ideal city, the propaganda is paternalistically targeted at the citizens' own good but not exclusively at the citizens' own good. Start studying philosophy plato's the republic books 1-4 flashcards learn vocabulary, terms, and more with flashcards, games, and other study tools.
Since the mid-nineteenth century, the republic has been plato's most famous and widely read dialogue as in most other platonic dialogues the main character is socrates as in most other platonic dialogues the main character is socrates. Quote 1: age isn't easy for a good man if he's poor, nor will a bad man ever be cheerful with himself even if he's rich book 1, pg 3, line 332 quote 2: it keeps him from having to leave life in the fear of owing debts to men or sacrifices to the gods book 1, pg 5, line 331b quote 3: no. Plato wants to banish poets from his ideal republic because he thinks they would distract people from the pursuit of the truth poetry makes people emotional, thinks plato, undermining the full. Often people say plato has three great political dialogues, the republic, the statesman and the laws one problem with saying that is that you might say all his dialogues have a political dimension one problem with saying that is that you might say all his dialogues have a political dimension.
For plato and socrates, justice is fulfilling one's appropriate role, and consequently giving to the city what is owed active themes get the entire the republic litchart as a printable pdf. The republic is arguably the most popular and most widely taught of plato's writings although it contains its dramatic moments and it employs certain literary devices, it is not a play, a novel, a story it is not, in a strict sense, an essay.
Note that those interested in plato on pleasure and the good life, who seek a succinct overview beyond the one i have just given, will find it spelled out with admirable clarity on pages 9-13 of russell's book generally speaking, the book is well written, clear, insightful, and recommended. It is only in plato's later dialogues, specifically the republic, that the philosopher articulates, to any discernible degree, his ideas on human virtues and their relation to a good life. The allegory of the cave is one of the most famous passages in the history of western philosophy it is a short excerpt from the beginning of book seven of plato's book, the republic plato.
Women in the republic with this in mind, socrates begins to speak about children and women he suggests that women might be part of the guardian class and goes even further to say that if this is the case, they would need to get the same education and training the men get. (republic 580a) this argument makes sense even independently of plato's larger theory it is a generalized version of the fairly common notion that it is easier to be honest than to keep track of the truth along with a number of false stories about it. Uncertain cephalos was old (he actually died in 430) polemarchos died in 403 plato was born in 427 that plato's brothers are young men puts practical limitations on how far before or into the archidamian war the dialogue could be placed.
Well, it's partly because he's become so famous for being a character in plato's dialogues that we aren't able to separate fact from fiction since socrates didn't leave us any of his own writings—he was supposedly kind of suspicious of the written word—we only know what plato (and this other dude named xenophon, who also wrote about him) wanted socrates to say and think. The good life: plato about transcript chris surprenant (university of new orleans) discusses the account of human well-being and the good life presented by socrates in plato's dialogues. Glaucon asks socrates whether justice belongs 1) in the class of good things we choose to have for themselves, like joy, or 2) those we value for their consequences though they themselves are hard, like physical training, or 3) the things we value for themselves and their consequences, like knowledge.